A common objection to the scope theories of indefinites and intensionality has been that they in some cases require DPs to move out of islands (e.g., Fodor & Sag 1982). This objection has been defused recently by showing that movement out of islands can be evaded by a combination of movement of a DP to the edge of an island and subsequent movement of the island (Charlow 2019, Demirok 2019, Elliott 2020). This note presents some observations that, we argue, are puzzling for the scope theories even on this recent amendment.

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